I had the honor of attending Chaya Venkat’s last meeting at
her house in Columbia, Maryland – that is, until she “gets her mojo back.” It
was really worth my while staying longer in the East Coast after my medical
appointment at NIH (National Institutes of Health).
Chaya, the chief science writer for http://updates.clltopics.org/, is a
priceless patient advocate for leukemia patients with all different venues of
CLL/SLL. She gives relentlessly to leukemia patients. She has been my personal
virtual rock, since I was diagnosed with 17p deleted malignant B-cells that
have run amuck. She has been our voice, the layman’s translator of academic
medical jargon, and the inspiration for us to take control of our own health.
She has been the empress of all dragon slayers, but has grown weary in the
battle. Chaya has been wounded too many times with the deaths of friends. She
has held thousands of hands, and touched thousands of hearts. Now her heart
needs a little R&R and healing, so off to India she goes. There is not
enough love and gratitude to give back to that lovely woman. I personally will
be forever grateful. I pray every day that she gets her mojo back…
This blog posting is a summary of the meeting topics I found
most interesting to me. I am hoping this will inform those who are caretakers,
as well as those who are patients.
I. TOPIC 1:
DECISIONS ABOUT YOUR CANCER TREATMENT
A. When you enter a clinical trial, be aware of the informed
consent.
B. Once you make a decision, “do not look back and second
guess yourself, because therein lies madness…” (a quote from Chaya)
C. The buck stops with you the patient. You won’t be handed
information. Don’t take it personally. You must be your own advocate.
D. Understand that the suicide rate is the highest in the
oncology field. It can’t be fun watching people die.
II. TOPIC 2: FCO vs.
FCR vs. BR CHEMOTHERAPY
In summary, FCO appears to work better than FCR, and FCR
appears to work better than BR for most CLL/SLL patients.
A. FCO (fludarabine +
cyclophosphamide + ofatumumab)
Fludarabine (trade name “Fludara”) is a purine analog that relies
on a p53-dependent mechanism for cell kill; therefore, it is not as effective
for 17p deleted patients.
Cyclophosphamide is an alkylating agent.
Ofatumumab (Trade name Arzerra, older name Humax-CD20) is a fully
human protein that attaches to the CD20 marker. With previously treated
patients who were fludarabine refractory and Campath ineligible or refractory,
ofatumumab did seem to work better than Rituxan in clinical trials. Ofatumumab
hangs onto the B-cell longer.
B. FCR (fludarabine +
cyclophosphamide + Rituxan)
FCR is often referred to as the “gold standard.” This
frontline treatment has been used successfully for a number of years. This is
not a cure, however, and most patients will relapse after seven years.
Fludarabine (trade name “Fludara”) is a purine analog that relies
on a p53-dependent mechanism for cell kill; therefore, it is not as effective
for 17p deleted patients.
Cyclophosphamide is an alkylating agent.
Rituxan (rituximab) is a monoclonal antibody that is often
called “mouse juice,” since it is made from human protein and mouse protein. It
attaches to the CD20 marker.
C. BR (bendamustine +
Rituxan)
Bendamustine (Treanda) is a purine analog/alkylator hybrid
agent.
Rituxan (rituximab) is a monoclonal antibody that is often
called “mouse juice,” since it is made from human protein and mouse protein. It
attaches to the CD20 marker.
III. TOPIC 3: INFECTIONS
A. Bacterial infections
CLL/SLL patients get bacterial
infections if they do not have enough IgG in their blood work. CLL cells cannot
grow up to be healthy plasma cells. Pneumonia is caused by bacterial
infections. Therapy will not help IgG. The only drug that has made IGG levels
go up is Revlimid (Lenalidomide).
IgG can be replaced with IVIG ($10,000 per dose). Blood from as many as 10,000 donors could be used
to make a single batch of IVIG. IVIG is a blood product that is in short
supply. IgA and IgM cannot be replaced.
B. Viral infections:
T-cells work with viral
infections.
C. Clinical trial eligibility:
If a patient has been exposed to Hepatitis C, he or she is
not eligible to participate in most clinical trials.
D. People don’t die of CLL/SLL. They die of one or more of
the following:
1. secondary cancers
2. side effects of cancer treatment
3. pneumonia
E. How to prevent infections:
1. Have your Vitamin D3 level
checked by you GP. Remember that excessive Vitamin D is also toxic.
2. Chew Trident sugarless gum or
any gum with XYLOTOL. It is a sugar alcohol sweetener used as a sugar
substitute, and bacteria can’t eat it. It essentially starves your bacteria. Xylitol is actively beneficial for dental health,
reducing tooth decay to a third in regular use, and has been shown to reduce
the incidence of ear infections.
3. Get inoculated. Get a pneumonia
vaccine as soon as you are diagnosed. It works for five years. The longer you
wait to get this inoculation, the less chance you have of it working fully. Get
a flu shot every year, even if it has less of a chance of working as the time
from diagnosis goes by.
4. Break the habit of touching your
face.
IV. TOPIC 4: KINASE INHIBITORS and REVLIMID
A. Ibrutinib (PCI-32765):
This is the kinase inhibitor clinical trial in which I am
participating. NIH says that the drug will be FDA approved in 2-3 years. Chaya
believes it will be more like 5 years until it is commercially available.
A couple participants have reported iron deficiency and
being anemic due to gastro intestinal bleeding. This is a micro leak in the
G.I. track – essentially a small almost unnoticeable leak that adds up over
time.
B. CAL-101:
24% of the participants on the kinase inhibitor trial are
suffering from Grade 3-4 pneumonia, according to Chaya.
C. Revlimid (lenalidomide), a thalidomide analogue (which
caused limb abnormalities in babies when used during pregnancy) has proven to
be a disappointment in treating 17p deleted patients. Overall, it has caused
80% of participants to have Grade 3-4 hematologic toxicity.
V. TOPIC 5: BONE
MARROW
A. Pancytopemia means that the bone marrow is dead. This
occurs in late-stage CLL/SLL. Red and white cells, as well as platelets are
drastically reduced.
B. The white blood cell count and ALC (absolute lymphocyte
count), which is the sum of the B and T-cell counts, are not as important as
the infiltration of the:
1. bone marrow
2. spleen
3. liver
4. and lymph nodes
C. These counts are important for bone marrow health:
1. red blood count (normal range
3.93-5.22 M/uL)
2. hemoglobin (normal range 11.2-15
g/dL)
3. neutrophils (normal range
34.0-71.1%)
4. platelets (normal range 173-369
K/uL)
VI. TOPIC 6: HEALTH
TRIVIA
A. The basal temperature of a leukemia patient is abnormally
lower than the normal person. If a healthy person’s body temperature is 98.6
degrees Fahrenheit, a leukemia patient can have a full-blown fever at 99
degrees.
Take your temperature the same time each day for 2-3 weeks
and chart the results. This will be evidence to give your doctors to show your
lower body temperature.
B. Dental care is very important for a CLL/SLL patient.
Please inform your dentist that you are a leukemia patient. Let him or her know
about your treatment and side effects.
C. Types of cytopenia:
1. anemia = a deficiency of red
blood cells
2. Leukocytes, leucopenia, or
neutropenia = a deficiency of white blood cells
3. thrombocytopenia = a deficiency
of platelets
4. leukocytopenia = too low WBC
So these are the notes I wrote down at the meeting. These
were the topics that were of particular interest to me. I hope you will find
this information helpful to you.
Until my next posting … wishing you love and gratitude,
because after all… we are all in this together.
Very well done, will keep the link to pass to others.
ReplyDeleteChonette
10 years living with CLL
SCT March 2009
Thanks so much, Chonette. It's really important to pass on information to others.
DeleteVery well done, will keep the link to pass to others.
ReplyDeleteChonette
10 years living with CLL
SCT March 2009
Hi La Verne. Just came across your blog this morning. Great to hear more about the meeting with Chaya and thanks for all the info. Interestingly, I was looking for some gum a few weeks ago and couldn't find a sugar-free gum that wasn't loaded with junk. I went to a large health food store chain and there found Glee brand gum. It has Xylitol and no junk. All is going well here and I am continuing to use your suggestion to take meds first thing in the morning. You're right, it works a lot easier. Best to you.
ReplyDeleteI will look for Glee gum at the health food store. Thanks for the info.
DeleteSee you at NIH in November... :-)
Hi Doctor Harris , I have just come across your blog . I am interested to read about the basal temperature of CLL patients because my temp is usually 36.5C and I feel ' flu y ' and really bad if it goes to 37C , or slightly above ,which I believe is the norm , .My specialist , however , told me to contact the hospital if/when my temp reaches 38C . I have the 11q deletion and after nearly eight years of W@W ( I was lucky ) I have just had my first five pulse treatment with FCR ( finished in August ). I've had no follow up since so I'm not sure what my results are . I'm hoping that no news is good news , but should I ask ? And should I mention about my temperature ?
ReplyDeleteI will be looking for Glee gum too !
Best wishes , and thanks for your blog .
Dear Veronica:
DeleteEvery patient has the right to their own medical records. Please request for the clinical notes, including any test results. Then ask for a follow-up appointment so that you can go over any questions, clarify what the records mean, and determine what your next step should be.
Dear Dr. La Verne ,
DeleteThank you for your reply .
I contacted my hospital and I have an appointment to discuss my results next Thursday . I am feeling well and am optimistic that the news may be favourable .
Thank you for inspiring me to be more pro-active with My CLL ( I think I have always hoped it would just go away if I ignored it ) and for being here for us .
Veronica .
Sorry , I meant to sign my name ! I don't know about LiveJournals and WordPress and URLs and stuff so I just put anonymous to the above post .
ReplyDeleteBest wishes ,
Veronica .
If you have a google account, you can reply as "google." If not, anonymous is file as long as you sign your name, so I can respond to you.
DeleteAlso please "join this site" as one of my followers, so that I know who you are.
Hello,
ReplyDeleteI love your blog and hope you don't mind me messaging. I'm looking for volunteers to contribute to my Doctoral Project 'In our Blood', looking at the way those of us living with CLL make sense of the impact of the disease on our lives through all of the different perspectives we come across when researching the disease online.
When I was diagnosed my GP had little knowledge of the disease. He was unable to answer many of my questions and told me to go away and "look it up on the internet". It was here that it became clear to me that "CLL" as we understand it is a disease constructed out of many perspectives, some mainstream and rooted in biomedical research and clinical practice, some tied into popular cultural belief systems about disease, others marginalised and "alternative", and many drawing from biographical autobiographical experience as we negotiate our own perspectives in relation to those already out there.
My project 'In our Blood' was born shortly after my diagnosis. The work traces the networks and associations between all of the different perspectives that come together both on and off-line to produce knowledge of a disease. The whole is looped into my own autobiographical narrative of what it means to live with this disease, and refers out to the biographical experiences of others through postings, blogs, videos etc. This is where I need your help to get as many perspectives from others living with CLL into the work...
I am particularly interested in drawing on people's experiences of:
Diagnosis (what it feels like to get the diagnosis, and how we deal with it)
Prognosis (what resources we use to deal with that - how research and other patient experiences affects our expectations)
Learning to Live with CLL (how we adjust our lifestyles and attitudes, and what resources we draw on to help with that)
How a diagnosis of CLL affects our sense of time (I guess this one is about the impact of an increased sense of mortality)
How having CLL impacts on our relationships with others (what happens to existing relationships with family/friends/colleagues - do we come to feel like 'strangers' in our own lives, and how do we deal with that?)
I would be delighted if you would consider allowing me to use some of your perspectives on living with CLL in my work.
I launched a blog to explain the work to respondents in an online support community for people with CLL a while back:
julesk-inourblood.blogspot....
If you are interested, perhaps you could take a look at the information, download and read through the consent forms linked to the site under the Information and Consent Forms for Downloading heading on the right hand margin, and message me back either through this site, or on julia.kennedy@falmouth.ac.uk.
Please get back to me if you would like to participate in any way, or if you have any questions about the work.
I'm presenting a paper on the project at the Cardiff meeting of the CLLSA on 30th January. The work has been through a rigorous ethics committee process and gained full ethics clearance from my University (University of the Arts London/Falmouth University). It has also been before the committee of the CLLSA and has its full support, and has received expressions of interest from the Lymphoma and Leukemia Research Organisation.
I really look forward to having the privilege of working with your thoughts and experiences if you are willing to share them.
With kind regards, and wishing you a fine New Year ...
Julia
e-mail: julia.kennedy@falmouth.ac.uk
Dear Julia:
DeleteI would love to help you any way I can. I did see your introduction to your dissertation on the ACORN listserv.
-- LV